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Tim Panaccio
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Mar 27 @ 9:59 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: Do You Believe Bryz Plays?
Bill Meltzer
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Mar 27 @ 10:25 PM ET
Tim, I agree that it's very unlikely Bryz will be ready to go.

Ragnarsson had to have surgery after badly breaking his left index finger in Game 3 of the 2004 ECF against Tampa and that was actually the injury that kept him out of the rest of the playoffs.

Ragnarsson dressed in 14 of 18 playoff games that year, missing games 4,5,6 and 7 of the conference finals. The best-case prognosis for his return was three weeks from the time of the surgery, so a return at any point in the Tampa series was probably out of the question, even though he was asked and refused to try to come back for Games 6 and 7.

Of course, we've both seen players "miraculously heal" in the postseason (AKA play with injuries they have no business playing with because it's the playoffs). But I personally don't fault a player who just had surgery for not moving up his timetable by several weeks when he still couldn't grip a stick, even in a must-win playoff situation.

http://articles.philly.co...ni-pitkanen-ken-hitchcock
watsonnostaw
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Mar 27 @ 11:47 PM ET
Nortongoalie
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 27 @ 11:57 PM ET
Nothing like being burned with an article you wrote.
Let's hope Bob can find his groove with some consistent ice time. Let Bryz rest the foot for a few games.
Do I remember this correctly? Did Bobby Clarke get sent on a vacation one year to rest up for the playoffs?
wilsonecho91
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Mar 28 @ 3:01 AM ET
Nothing like being burned with an article you wrote.
Let's hope Bob can find his groove with some consistent ice time. Let Bryz rest the foot for a few games.
Do I remember this correctly? Did Bobby Clarke get sent on a vacation one year to rest up for the playoffs?

- Nortongoalie


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 28 @ 8:12 AM ET
Tim Panaccio: Do You Believe Bryz Plays?
- tpanaccio


From what it sounds like, and granted it's a big grain of salt considering the team's past pronouncements of injuries and timetables, that it's a matter of pain management, not something that puts Bryzgalov at future risk.

Now, obviously if there's a chance it worsens or becomes a problem he'll have to deal with down the road, there's no way you rush back. The Flyers have an investment to protect.

However, if it's simply a case of pain management, I think he could be playing. The key then becomes, how effective can he be. Reading the medical websites, when there's a chip fracture, or as most of the sites refer to it an avulsion fracture, there's also tissue damage and it often occurs near a joint.

From what the team has said-and again, big grain of salt-it seems more that Bryzgalov has a small bone chip and not the associated tissue injury.

It really depends on the proper information, which likely none of us have, given how the Flyers guard injury information.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
Tim, I agree that it's very unlikely Bryz will be ready to go.

Ragnarsson had to have surgery after badly breaking his left index finger in Game 3 of the 2004 ECF against Tampa and that was actually the injury that kept him out of the rest of the playoffs.

Ragnarsson dressed in 14 of 18 playoff games that year, missing games 4,5,6 and 7 of the conference finals. The best-case prognosis for his return was three weeks from the time of the surgery, so a return at any point in the Tampa series was probably out of the question, even though he was asked and refused to try to come back for Games 6 and 7.

Of course, we've both seen players "miraculously heal" in the postseason (AKA play with injuries they have no business playing with because it's the playoffs). But I personally don't fault a player who just had surgery for not moving up his timetable by several weeks when he still couldn't grip a stick, even in a must-win playoff situation.

http://articles.philly.co...ni-pitkanen-ken-hitchcock

- bmeltzer


a healthy (edit: even 50%) rico would have really aided the special teams that were hurting badly in that tampa series.
wbon22
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 28 @ 12:34 PM ET
Wow, got Bob chiming in too...

I think that the "prognosis" is more of an indictment of the medical staff than anything else. If this really is a chip fracture there is no way "pain management" will allow for Bryz back this week. So, either it isn't really a chip fracture, or the Dr's/Homer are dreaming.

lilbhb5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lancaster, PA
Joined: 01.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
Tim, I agree that it's very unlikely Bryz will be ready to go.

Ragnarsson had to have surgery after badly breaking his left index finger in Game 3 of the 2004 ECF against Tampa and that was actually the injury that kept him out of the rest of the playoffs.

Ragnarsson dressed in 14 of 18 playoff games that year, missing games 4,5,6 and 7 of the conference finals. The best-case prognosis for his return was three weeks from the time of the surgery, so a return at any point in the Tampa series was probably out of the question, even though he was asked and refused to try to come back for Games 6 and 7.

Of course, we've both seen players "miraculously heal" in the postseason (AKA play with injuries they have no business playing with because it's the playoffs). But I personally don't fault a player who just had surgery for not moving up his timetable by several weeks when he still couldn't grip a stick, even in a must-win playoff situation.

http://articles.philly.co...ni-pitkanen-ken-hitchcock

- bmeltzer


Bill, you forgot to say first...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 28 @ 1:15 PM ET

- watsonnostaw

flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 05.23.2008

Mar 28 @ 3:59 PM ET
I think it doesn't really matter as they are in the playoffs. And that THIS is the reason you don't trade Bob. Teams have 2 goalies for a reason. Time for Bob to shoulder the load for a bit.

Let's go Russian Goalie tag team!
Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 28 @ 5:32 PM ET
Tim, I agree that it's very unlikely Bryz will be ready to go.

Ragnarsson had to have surgery after badly breaking his left index finger in Game 3 of the 2004 ECF against Tampa and that was actually the injury that kept him out of the rest of the playoffs.

{snip}

- bmeltzer



Meltzer 1, Panotch 0. Color me unsurprised...
puckhead7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 28 @ 9:07 PM ET
Rags a fraud? I don't think so.

Just another fine example of why Panotch is so well loved in the Flyers locker room.

Thanks for clarifying Rags' injury Bill!
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 11.07.2006

Mar 28 @ 10:46 PM ET
If I'm not mistaken, Kim Johnsson had a broken right hand and shook hands with the lightning with his left in the handshake line following game 7. On top of that, Malakhov, who played very well that Spring, missed games in the ECF. The injury situation finally just became comical that year. To me, there is very little question the Flyers hoist the cup in 2004 with just a little less injury misfortune.
Crimsoninja
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Mar 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
If I'm not mistaken, Kim Johnsson had a broken right hand and shook hands with the lightning with his left in the handshake line following game 7. On top of that, Malakhov, who played very well that Spring, missed games in the ECF. The injury situation finally just became comical that year. To me, there is very little question the Flyers hoist the cup in 2004 with just a little less injury misfortune.
- BOSS_TWEED

bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 29 @ 1:19 PM ET

- Crimsoninja

There's a signed Kim Johnsson game used stick available in NHL auctions, crims.
Crimsoninja
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Mar 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
There's a signed Kim Johnsson game used stick available in NHL auctions, crims.
- bodiva88

i already own 12, but ty
watsonnostaw
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Mar 29 @ 3:50 PM ET
i already own 12, but ty
- Crimsoninja

you're welcome